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I have been wondering about this one

 

https://web2.0calc.com/questions/help-meh-pls_1

 

Maybe another mathematician might like to take a look ?

 Dec 1, 2020

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Algebra is a bit messy so needs checking, (and gaps filling in !).

 Result agrees with Melody's though.

 

The point P can be taken to have co-ordinates (t22,t).

( Parametric equations for the parabola can be x=t2/2,y=t. )

 

Suppose that y = ax + b is the equation of a line passing through this point, then   t=at22+b,

so

y=ax+tat22.   ................................................(1)

This cuts the circle x2+y22x=0 at points with x co-ordinates given by (simplified eq),

x2(1+a2)+x(2ata2t22)+t2+a2t44at3=0.

This needs to have equal roots if the contact with the circle is to be tangential, so

(2ata2t22)24(1+a2)(t2+a2t44at3)=0,

or,

a2(4t2t4)+a(4t38t)+44t2=0.

 

That gives us two values for a, (for the two lines from P to the circle).

Solving for a,

a1=2(2+tt2)t(4t2),a2=2(2tt2)t(4t2).

Looking back at (1), the tangents will have intercepts with the y-axis at      ta1t22 and ta2t22,

meaning that the base of the triangle PBC (the line between B and C along the y-axis), will have length  

(a1a2)t22=2t24t2,and the area of the triangle

(base times height divided by 2),

2t24t2.t22.12=t42(4t2).

(The denominator could be t^2 - 4, depending on whether t is less than or greater than 2)

 

Differentiating that in order to find max/min produces t=±8,

and an area

642(48)∣=8.

 Dec 1, 2020
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I'll paste this problem in and maybe you look at the problem above?

 Dec 1, 2020
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Let P be a variable point on the parabola y^2=2x and Let B and C be points on the y-axis so that the circle (x-1)^2+y^2=1 is inscribed in triangle PBC. Find the minimum area of triangle PBC.

 Dec 1, 2020
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I am glad you are showing an interest but I want it answered on the original!

 

 

ANSWER ON THE ORIGINAL THREAD 

 

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 Dec 1, 2020
edited by Melody  Dec 1, 2020
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👍 

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 Dec 1, 2020
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Algebra is a bit messy so needs checking, (and gaps filling in !).

 Result agrees with Melody's though.

 

The point P can be taken to have co-ordinates (t22,t).

( Parametric equations for the parabola can be x=t2/2,y=t. )

 

Suppose that y = ax + b is the equation of a line passing through this point, then   t=at22+b,

so

y=ax+tat22.   ................................................(1)

This cuts the circle x2+y22x=0 at points with x co-ordinates given by (simplified eq),

x2(1+a2)+x(2ata2t22)+t2+a2t44at3=0.

This needs to have equal roots if the contact with the circle is to be tangential, so

(2ata2t22)24(1+a2)(t2+a2t44at3)=0,

or,

a2(4t2t4)+a(4t38t)+44t2=0.

 

That gives us two values for a, (for the two lines from P to the circle).

Solving for a,

a1=2(2+tt2)t(4t2),a2=2(2tt2)t(4t2).

Looking back at (1), the tangents will have intercepts with the y-axis at      ta1t22 and ta2t22,

meaning that the base of the triangle PBC (the line between B and C along the y-axis), will have length  

(a1a2)t22=2t24t2,and the area of the triangle

(base times height divided by 2),

2t24t2.t22.12=t42(4t2).

(The denominator could be t^2 - 4, depending on whether t is less than or greater than 2)

 

Differentiating that in order to find max/min produces t=±8,

and an area

642(48)∣=8.

Tiggsy Dec 1, 2020
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Thx, Tiggsy..  excellent work...that's a LOT to digest    !!!!

 

cool cool cool

CPhill  Dec 1, 2020
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What do you mean 

 Dec 1, 2020
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Thanks Tiggsy,

That is great.

I will take a proper look a little later.

 Dec 1, 2020

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